Mr Collins in Love: author interview with Lee Welch

Lee Welch is a fantasy/historical romance writer based in Wellington. Like most Wellingtonians, she works for the government, but has a role inline with her interests: writing and editing. Mr Collins in Love is her first foray into Austen fiction, and she’s clearly done a great job; it was ranked as one of the top ten romance novels of 2025 by the New York Times. Lee has graciously agreed to answer my burning questions about her version of Mr Collins. [At the end there’s a chance for you to win a copy!]

Mr Collins, let’s be frank, sucks. What inspired you to reinterpret him? What influenced your interpretation of him? Why decide to give him love?

He doesn’t REALLY suck! Jane Austen simply misunderstood her own character. Hee hee, it still gives me a mischievous thrill to say that! 

But seriously, I too was once a Mr Collins hater like every sensible person. Then, one evening I was idly rewatching the 2005 Joe Wright film with Keira Knightley as Elizabeth Bennet. Tom Hollander plays Mr Collins, and, I feel, brings a certain earnest sympathy to the role, which was lacking, for me at least, in David Bamber’s portrayal of the character in the 1995 BBC TV series.

There’s a scene in the 2005 film that inspired me. It lasts a second or two. We see Mr Collins at Mr Bingley’s ball. He’s looking for Lizzie and can’t find her, and there’s this brief moment where he looks so lost and confused. I felt for the man, so obviously out of place in one of the greatest love stories ever told. 

I thought; why shouldn’t he have a happy ending too? Why shouldn’t he be the hero for once? Because everyone deserves love, right? And because I write m/m romance (i.e. romance between men), it was obvious to me that his happy ending wouldn’t be with Charlotte Lucas, but with someone else entirely. And it all went from there!

How did you decide which details from the novel to include/recontextualise? Do you think Austen would have enjoyed this reinterpretation of her work and what kind of enjoyment do you imagine she might have received from it?

My first act was to jot down all the information Austen gives us about Mr Collins in the book, including some of the things he says. Then I started playing with what we know about him and trying to reinterpret those things from a sympathetic point of view. Why, for example, did he make no “useful acquaintance” at university? What would it have been like to have been brought up “under the guidance of an illiterate and miserly father”? I tried to use all the details that were pertinent to Mr Collins, while including none that didn’t centre him. That, for example, is why Lizzie doesn’t appear on the page in my book, because frankly, she’s not that important to him or his story, whereas Charlotte must appear on the page because he marries her. She’s important to him because her presence in his house will affect the man he loves.

The hardest detail for me to recontextualise was a line in Mr Collins’ letter to Mr Bennet after Lydia has run off with Wickham. Mr Collins writes “The death of your daughter would have been a blessing in comparison to this.” That’s quite a thing to say and it took me a while to come up with a way to interpret that in a charitable light! I think I managed it but of course readers will have to judge for themselves.

I’m afraid if the real Jane Austen read my story she’d be horrified and offended. Mr Collins, in love with another man! That love returned! She was a woman of her time, and a Christian, and respectable people didn’t approve of such things back then. 

If she’d been born in our times, I expect she wouldn’t have minded about Mr Collins being gay, but she might have felt I’d been rather kind to her odious little clergyman. 

Let’s talk about Jem, the “love interest”. Jem is a difficult character for the reader to understand. Does this reflect Mr Collins own struggles? Was it important to you that Jem belonged to a different social class? It seems like Jem understands who he is, and who Mr Collins is, in a way Mr Collins doesn’t – how/why? 

Is Jem difficult to understand? Of course it WAS intentional for Mr Collins to sometimes be confused by Jem and his actions. To my mind, Jem is very clear in his motivations and intentions: he’s had a hard life. His father died. His brother was a bully. People thought him ugly and said so. One person, and one person alone, showed him friendship and loyalty – young Master Willie, our Mr Collins. It’s telling that when he’s in trouble, Jem goes to Mr Collins for help. They trusted each other once and in the book they learn to trust one another again.

I did contemplate having a love interest for Mr Collins who was of the same social class, but the fact that Austen tells us he made no acquaintance at university kept prodding me. Since he found it hard to make friends, I felt I needed someone who would have been around him for long enough to realise that he’s a kind and decent person. So, it made sense that Jem would be working class because that way he’d be at young Master Willie’s house doing his job; they would have been thrown together.

I agree that Jem understands who he is. He’s lived, he’s been out in the world, and has clear ideas about right and wrong. He’s a gentle man who’s found the world to be horribly harsh. He wants to escape the cruelty and violence, to be treated decently, and valued as a friend…or maybe something more.

Mr Collins understands himself quite well, actually. He knows his preferences and limitations, and is justifiably proud of the way he navigates the world. The problem for him is other people! They don’t accept his preferences and limitations, so he must keep things secret and pretend all the time. It’s exhausting, and he’s constantly terrified of making a mistake. Because other people’s habits and reactions are so odd (to him) he doubts himself a lot of the time. Also, he finds the ‘helpful advice’ people give him is generally no help at all. 

I meant that Jem seems to be aware of their, presumably shared, sexual identity. Perhaps even outside of their relationship.

As a working-class boy with older brothers and other boys about, Jem would have learned about various sexual acts much earlier than friendless young Master Willie. It’s from Jem that the young Mr Collins learned that secret sexual activity was possible between men. Jem’s been in the navy, too. He’d have been aware of a fair bit of sex, though lots of men will have sex with other men if there aren’t any women around – it doesn’t mean those men are “gay” (not that they’d have used that word in Mr Collins’ time!) and Jem wouldn’t have assumed so. He knows there are other men who aren’t interested in women, but I don’t think he thinks in terms of “identity”; he just knows what he likes, and he isn’t interested in finding anyone else.

In any case, the book is told solely from the point of view of Mr Collins, and he has never really discussed sexuality with Jem, beyond them both setting a couple of simple limits when they were young. Mr Collins never questions Jem’s preferences; he simply accepts them, as Jem does his. I think the lack of interrogation is something they both very much appreciate; how wonderful to find someone who simply accepts you as you are!

As someone who is both queer and neurodivergent, it was refreshing to see some of my own identity on the page in relation to Austen. Why or how was this book important to you?

I see no reason why we shouldn’t queer Austen or any of the classics and thus get the books we hoped for growing up.

The same goes for a neurodivergent character – why shouldn’t he get to be the hero? 

It felt very important to write a book that reassesses a character who’s been ridiculed and loathed for over a century. I’m often horrified at how judgemental people can be, and how quick they are to interpret the actions of others in the worst possible light. But if you see things from the point of view of that person, you may see that they’re doing their best in a difficult situation, and that they are, in fact, a person of considerable kindness and bravery.

The fans will definitely want more. What other Austen characters would you be keen to reinterpret? Who else could be quietly queer? What’s next for you?

Ha ha, I’m afraid I’m going to disappoint readers who are hoping for a queer Marianne Dashwood or whoever. I’ve written four books and while they’re all m/m romance, that’s the only similarity. I tend to gravitate to something completely different each time.

Thanks for your time, Lee. I really enjoyed this novella and recommend interested readers purchase it from Amazon or most other online bookstores (print only from Amazon, audiobook also available). Looking forward to future Austen works from you (fingers crossed) and hopefully seeing your face at Austen meetings. 

If readers would like to go into the draw to win a free ebook of Mr Collins in Love, please email Lee at leewelchwriter@gmail.com before the end of Feb with the subject “JASANZ entry for Mr Collins ebook”.

For more info on Mr Collins in Love and Lee’s other books please visit https://leewelchwriter.com/

Is Charlotte aromantic?

Video and audio from Pride and Prejudice 1995

Featuring a (slightly modified) aromantic pride design you can get on a bunch of different items over on Redbubble

I spoke on this topic at an Austen meeting, you can read it here

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Finding a dress

I needed to find a dress for Jane Austen’s birthday party. After a costume store failed, I found a dress hire place.

Things didn’t start out great. The internet told me Attire for Hire was in the Johnsonville Mall. It was not.

Eventually after circling the block, the directions pointed across the carpark where I spotted a sign. Unfortunately once I got there I couldn’t figure out how to get into the building as the most obvious entrance showed only two businesses, neither the one I was looking for.

After a panic attack on the stairs above the car park at the back of the building, I was rescued by Judy.

This is how you get into the building:

(Filmed after my appointment) To make it easier for others to find…

Thankfully Judy wasn’t annoyed and showed me into the space. Rows of gorgeous dresses line the walls, on a shelf many sparkly accessories rest, in the dressing area there are shoes that look supremely uncomfortable.

The first dress I tried on was exactly what I had envisioned; blue, ridiculously large skirt…but it didn’t fit. Considering the thin staps and how much I would have stumbled over that skirt, it’s a good thing the back wouldn’t do up.

Judy had pulled several sparkly dresses for me to try, the bronze one though not in my colour she’d intuited I’d like after our phone call. She was right, if only it had a lower back. Each of them was gorgeous! One would need the straps adjusted and two of them I’d need to wear a strapless bra, not really an option when you’re endowed like me (despite a reduction!). Additionally, they all would have been uncomfortable to wear for several hours, especially as I’d worry about catching the beading and/or sequins.

The dress I chose was the first I tried on. Judy hadn’t pulled it for me to try originally but she grabbed it the moment I walked in. She is a genius. It’s not the huge skirt, sparkly dress of my dreams but it felt right. Not only could I move with ease, I felt like me (at one point I had a dress with a similar skirt), I felt comfortable, would be able to run around organising all evening and it was still gorgeous. Bonus points for it matching my hair. Just look how happy I am trying it on.

Running events and being a “public face” (urgh hate that term) is difficult for someone like me who prefers to sit in the back row and listen intently. Getting my hair and makeup done professionally plus picking glorious outfits eases some of the stress – not only do I not have to do all that work myself, it gives me the confidence that even if I screw up, I look mighty fine doing it!

Audio throughout is myself and Judy talking plus The Life of a Showgirl by Taylor Swift (I was in the top 0.01% of listeners in 2025)

The Gardiners knew

When the Gardiners meet Mr Darcy in the company of Lizzy at Pemberley she is relieved to have “some relations for whom there was no need to blush.” Swiftly Mr Darcy brings his sister to meet them and the Gardiners recognise “that there was no other way of accounting for such attentions from such a quarter than by supposing a partiality for their niece.” During the visit they determine that Mr Darcy “was overflowing with admiration” for Lizzy, concluding with “it was evident that he was very much in love with her.”

Mrs Gardiner wishes to know the full truth of the matter especially when it appears Lizzy has told Mr Darcy about Lydia’s elopement (a circumstance they would try to keep as secret as possible).

Oh, that I knew how it was!

Both Gardiners consider there was some sort of understanding between the two or “would never have yielded” to allow Mr Darcy to organise Lydia’s marriage.

Video from Pride and Prejudice 1995 / Audio from Cassandra by Taylor Swift

The last line of the novel is devoted to the Gardiners:

With the Gardiners they were always on the most intimate terms. Darcy, as well as Elizabeth, really loved them; and they were both ever sensible of the warmest gratitude towards the persons who, by bringing her into Derbyshire, had been the means of uniting them.

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Schrodinger’s Rapist

On a recent episode of The Amateur Austenite I spoke about my theory of Schrodinger’s Rapist in relation to Mr Elton and Mr Collins. Already similar characters as they are male, clergymen, full of themselves, and determined to do well, when they propose to the protagonist of the novel in which they exist they are both revealed to be what I call Schrodinger’s rapists.

SHELDON: … in 1935, Erwin Schrodinger, in an attempt to explain the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics, he proposed an experiment where a cat is placed in a box with a sealed vial of poison that will break open at a random time. Now, since no-one knows when or if the poison has been released, until the box is opened, the cat can be thought of as both alive and dead.

PENNY: I’m sorry, I don’t get the point.

SHELDON: Well of course you don’t get it, I haven’t made it yet. You’d have to be psychic to get it, and there’s no such thing as psychic.

PENNY: Sheldon, what’s the point?

SHELDON: Just like Schrodinger’s Cat, your potential relationship with Leonard right now can be thought of as both good and bad. It is only by opening the box that you’ll find out which it is.

The Big Bang Theory, Series 01 Episode 17 “The Tangerine Factor”

This interaction from The Big Bang Theory sitcom was my introduction to Schrodinger’s Cat. But I had vague recollections of a similar story in Anne of Green Gables (actually a sequel called Anne of the Island, which I didn’t recollect reading). Anne and her friends attempt to gas a stray cat, but it doesn’t go to plan.

..when the box was lifted in the morning, Rusty bounded at one gay leap to Anne’s shoulder where he began to lick her face affectionately. Never was there a cat more decidedly alive.

“Here’s a knot hole in the box,” groaned Phil. “I never saw it. That’s why he didn’t die..”

Till they take the box off the cat, they assume that the cat is dead. It’s been enclosed in a box with gas, surely it will die. But they hadn’t considered all the circumstances, they didn’t know about the knot hole in the box.

What does that cat have to do with Mr Elton and Mr Collins?

Like Sheldon explains to Penny, a potential relationship “can be thought of as both good and bad.” You could say the same about men, we don’t know how they’ll react till they’re in the situation.

Rape is non-consensual sexual contact. Would Mr Elton or Mr Collins go so far? We don’t know. What we do know, is that they both refuse to hear no, when quite clearly spoken by the woman they are proposing to.

Emma’s situation is particularly precarious, trapped alone in a carriage with a man who refuses to listen to her then acts like a petulant child when she finally gets through to him. Lizzy at least is in her parents home which, despite her mothers wishes, offers some level of protection.

Had Pride and Prejudice and Emma been written by another author these scenes may have developed very differently. Consider Tess of the d’Urbervilles a novel about a woman being blamed, scorned and ostracised for a physical act she did not consent to. That is literally the whole point of the book, I still can’t understand why we’d read it (I read it for university), let alone consider it a classic.

Perhaps Austen is commenting on clergymen, supposed to be pillars of society but more interested in aggrandising themselves. Or she may be reminding us that we can’t trust even those who have a direct line to god (sadly, a lesson many learned).

What is evident throughout her writing is her awareness of the plight of women. Maria Rushworth is cast out of society for her affair but Mr Crawford can walk into any drawing room he likes. Lydia Bennet would have been ruined, and her family along with her, had Mr Darcy not paid Wickham to marry her. Willoughby doesn’t provide for his child (to a woman who is a child herself) and is free to marry a wealthy woman, casting aside Marianne Dashwood, another young woman he seduced (though thankfully not physically).

Mr Collins and Mr Elton highlight that men may not ask for consent, they may turn a deaf ear to a refusal. In different circumstances, instead of being rejected suitors, could they become rapists?

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Pleasure vs Joy

Reading Living the Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron I came across this quote which really stuck with me;

Pleasure is always derived from something outside you, whereas joy arises from within.” – Eckhart Tolle

In a lot of ways pleasure is easy to find; a hot shower, a cup of coffee (if you drink it, I don’t), good chocolate, a hug. Joy is something deeper and doesn’t necessarily need a cause in the same way that pleasure does.

I’ve found joy in being myself. When I lean into my neurodivergence, don’t try to be “normal” and follow my passions it’s so much more than pleasure. There’s a lightness that comes with joy and an ease.

Patting a dog gives me pleasure; being the person that wants to engage with every dog and give them that pat is the thing that gives me joy. You could say it’s about intention or situation rather than what you do.

In short: Be you. Find joy.

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Celebrating 30 years of Jane Austen

1995 was 30 years ago. Let that sink in.

That was the year of the revival of Jane Austen. BBC released the hugely popular adaptation of Pride and Prejudice, there were movie versions of Persuasion (with Amanda Root) and Sense and Sensibility (directed by Ang Lee, written and starring Emma Thompson). Plus we can’t forget, what I’ve heard many Austenites refer to as the most true adaptation of Emma, Clueless. This was followed by two (more historically accurate) adaptations of Emma in 1996.

After the success of Pride and Prejudice, Andrew Davies become known as the adaptor of Jane Austen for the screen. His very weird worrying wild wonton Sanditon is the culmination of his years of work, leaving Austen entirely behind. But can anything really move further from Austen than Pride and Prejudice and Zombies? (Definitely check out that movie adaptation, the liberties they’ve taken with its source material enhance the concept.)

Austen Societies across the globe swelled, where they existed, and popped up, where they didn’t. Sadly, it took almost 20 years before New Zealand followed suit (that was me btw).

2025 is not only the 250th anniversary of Austen’s birth, it’s the 30th anniversary of her rebirth. Because there seems to be an adaptation of Pride and Prejudice every decade, it’s also the 20th anniversary of the 2005 adaptation (with Kiera Knightley). As this was a movie, rather than a television series, it’s showing in selected theatres to celebrate.

In 2005 I watched the movie at Reading Cinemas in Courtney Place (closed since 2019 but rumour has it that it’ll reopen) which was conveniently next door to my office. I refuse to comment on whether I skipped out during a work day to watch an Austen movie for the first time in a theatre. Today I’ll watch it from a reclining seat at the Queensgate movie theatre, appropriately attired.

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Plot Twists

When something goes wrong in life, just yell "Plot Twist!" and move on 
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During a coaching series there’s always a point where something unexpected happens, often it’s accompanied by the client feeling unmotivated / wanting to quit.

I get it. You’ve been working on making your life better then something goes wrong, and it feels like it’s all been a waste of time, and maybe you’ll never get to where you want to be.

Maybe you’re feeling resistance because change is hard, the unknown is hard, maybe people won’t like you if you change etc.

All of this is expected, totally normal.

Once you know it’s going to happen you can indeed “yell “Plot Twist!” and move on.”

I’ve had clients come into a session very tense who relaxed once I mentioned plot twists. They understood it was part of the process. When they hit them earlier than other clients (you start to notice a pattern) I congratulate them.

The concept of plot twists slots conveniently well into my Austen-inspired life coaching.

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Emma is Clueless

Cher is clueless about her feelings for Josh – just as her regency counterpart, Emma, is clueless about her feelings for Mr Knightley. Emma is unaware that her determination not to marry is because she’s in love with Mr Knightley, her heart is reserved for him.

Video from Clueless

Audio from The Alchemy by Taylor Swift

Video from Emma (1996)

Audio from The Alchemy by Taylor Swift

If you didn’t know Clueless is based on Jane Austen’s Emma – where have you been?? It’s an appropriate title considering Emma thinks she knows what’s best for everyone but she really has no idea.

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What a Man Should Be

This weekend I participated in a discussion with JASNA Eastern Washington and Northern Idaho Region entitled “What a man should be” based off this quote from Emma:

“So unlike what a man should be!—None of that upright integrity, that strict adherence to truth and principle, that disdain of trick and littleness, which a man should display in every transaction of his life.”

Emma’s talking about Frank Churchill but who she’s describing is Mr Knightley. It’s not the first time she compares Mr Knightley to other men —consciously, or unconsciously as she does here.

When Emma is disappointed with Mr Weston, she again (unconsciously) describes Mr Knightley: “General benevolence, but not general friendship, made a man what he ought to be.” Then she adds as an afterthought; “She could fancy such a man.” Austen is making a joke that will take the length of the book to pay off.

At the ball Emma compares his figure to the men around him, unaware that she’s describing her attraction to him. “His tall, firm, upright figure, among the bulky forms and stooping shoulders of the elderly men, was such as … must draw every body’s eyes; and, excepting her own partner, there was not one among the whole row of young men who could be compared with him.”

When she’s telling Harriet that Robert Martin doesn’t have the manners of a gentleman she says; “..Mr. Knightley’s downright, decided, commanding sort of manner, .. suits him very well; his figure, and look, and situation in life seem to allow it..”

At the Cole’s party, Emma remarks to Mrs Weston; “I know no man more likely than Mr. Knightley …to do any thing really good-natured, useful, considerate, or benevolent. He is not a gallant man, but he is a very humane one…” In deference to Mr Knightley’s integrity she tells Harriet, though it pains her to do so, that he “is the last man in the world, who would intentionally give any woman the idea of his feeling for her more than he really does.”

Austen provides a comparison between Mr Elton and Mr Knightley. Emma thinks to herself that Mr Elton “is almost too gallant to be in love.. he does sigh and languish, and study for compliments rather more than I could endure.” But when Mr Knightley proposes he says “I cannot make speeches, Emma” .. in a tone of such sincere, decided, intelligible tenderness as was tolerably convincing.—“If I loved you less, I might be able to talk about it more.”

Emma admires Mr Knightley’s integrity, how he manages relationships, his figure, his manners, his character and his honesty.

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